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reading citizens and welcome to unknown

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I'm Jason McClellan I'm here with Shane

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herd thanks for hanging out with us

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today we'll be speaking with the emcee

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and one of the organizers of the

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upcoming international UFO Congress but

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before we get to that the mutual UFO

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network held its annual international

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UFO symposium at the end of July and

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Irvine California where the organization

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is based and Shane was there to check it

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out so Shane tell us about your very

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first experience attending MUFON

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international symposium yeah it was

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really great as you mentioned it was my

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first one even though I've been a MUFON

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member for several years the first year

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or two when it was on the west coast I

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just had a conflict and when it was East

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Coast I just couldn't make that so when

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it popped up in Irvine California this

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year I was able to go and it was

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thrilled to do it in fact it's the 50th

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anniversary of move funds so it's kind

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of a special one to be able to attend

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and it was really great I mean the

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facility was beautiful I was in Irvine

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California had great attendance and well

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one of the things that was really cool

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for me anyway is you know you connect

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with a lot of people behind the scenes

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either on Facebook or through you know

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case investigations and that sort of

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thing and you don't ever have a chance

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to meet them you know if they're across

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the country but in this case I was able

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to meet several individuals who you know

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we we had worked together and it was

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just really great to put a face with the

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name and then in addition to that there

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were you know some good speakers I got

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the privilege to spend some time with

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Cheryl Costa and a lot of the things

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that she's doing right now her and Linda

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are putting together quite a volume of

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statistical data you know based on

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states and counties and cities and just

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a level of degree that you know it's

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gonna be super useful and I think it's

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gonna sort of be their opus because

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they're they're talking about retirement

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sometime thereafter but yeah I got those

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yeah but it's really great to you know

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see your work in that in in the

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presentation that she had people really

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responded to it as well so I thought

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that was really great and it kind of had

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an international Flair there was people

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and Canada and Brazil really places all

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across the world providing case data and

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examples and and that was kind of

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fascinating as well just shows you the

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International nature of the UFO enigma

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so I really enjoyed that as well

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they had great vendor room and some

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really interesting things there as well

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so it was really a very neat conference

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in it it was all in one location you

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know one stage that kind of setup and

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you know you were able to enjoy as much

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as you wanted to so then of course there

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was plenty of time to hang out and enjoy

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and sitting out on the patio and having

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dinner and drinks and sitting by the

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fire I mean it was just really cool

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gotta see a lot of work or you know

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I really had a great time that's awesome

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I'm glad to hear it yeah I've been to

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the symposium in Irvine before beautiful

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location enjoyed it but you know the

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so I'm actually after that one yeah nice

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well speaking of the International UFO

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Congress that event is right around the

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corner this awesome annual UFO event

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lands in Phoenix Arizona

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September 4th through the 8th so let's

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jump into our conversation with

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conference co-organizer Alejandro Rojas

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this year marks the 28th annual

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International UFO Congress and in my

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opinion it's a pretty exciting year too

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because the conference is being held in

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a new location and it's being held

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during a different time of year than has

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historically been the case so Alejandro

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stances to your event so what prompted

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those it's a few things I mean you know

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when you and I work together I think

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well you and I found the the location we

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used to be at which was an extraordinary

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location and this is plenty because you

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know we we're gonna go I'm sure you

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remember all of this we're gonna do

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something in Mesa at a place that it was

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in this fancy still good great place and

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a lot of you know I think some like

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smaller Comic Cons or anime type things

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do stuff there that's right but you know

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fort mcdowell asked us to go out there

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and and you know you and I knew there

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was no way they would give us a price

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right now like what we had and makes it

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but we went out anyway so we could get

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our free lunch and check it out and and

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it ended up being great and at the end

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you know we told them what it would take

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to get our business and we had this

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other awesome offer and surprisingly

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to accommodate us and to bring us over

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there the problem is you know that was

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to think of Tempe because that wasn't

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too far after I moved out here and I

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remember what Tempe looked like kind of

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like surreal kind of like Mad Max with

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this giant tower that was you know

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had to compromise and say okay you could

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begged Karen to keep it here and so you

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which was it actually a great solution

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is downtown right in the heart this this

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property the Sheraton to the city the

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city partially owned it it was a rare

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situation where a city actually buys

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into a hotel it's extremely rare that

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this happens but Phoenix was trying to

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reinvigorate the area in the middle of

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us negotiating and having all of this

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Marriott and actually this is kind of

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through them Marriott doesn't own many

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properties they just manage them but

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they own which I guess there's only like

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how many they actually own

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just would have been way too expensive

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you know any other time of year so but

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anime one and it started small and it's

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grown to crazy huge proportions so we

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saw that they were able to do that so

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Congress and yeah I think a ton of yeah

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that's certainly a big issue you and I

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limitation on scalability and that's

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right hugely important for a conference

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like this yeah yeah exactly scalability

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of the major problems they even kept

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saying at the last conference you know

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big for us you're too big for us because

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so yeah scalability is great scaling up

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possible at this location not only that

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it's it's the heart of downtown so

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literally at CBS I think it is is right

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next door so all of the major media is

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down there so I think we'll get a lot

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more coverage for it in fact

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it because they've noticed it on the

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calendars and kind of tongue-in-cheek

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but not so much I think they're curious

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which is great so yeah I think all of

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those the reasons essentially are why we

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had to move and some people asked well

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why are you doing it there was so great

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out there and it was beautiful but we

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literally we had to there's no choice we

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had to move and it was either here or

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Vegas no you know what's great

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go ahead Shane I didn't just say what's

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great about tattoo for the attendees is

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it's right in downtown Phoenix so you

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can fly in you can you know you Boober

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over or whatever and then there's a lot

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other hotels so the options are a lot

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easier than they were in the in the last

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place so I thought that was pretty cool

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don't know about you Shane but I know

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you know Jason does comic-con and it

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would be of course incredible if and

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that's kind of what that Sabaton is like

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it's it's so big and that's what Phoenix

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if it could grow to that point to kind

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about media you know I hadn't thought

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about that but you're right that does

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increase the access and make it so much

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more convenient for them because yeah

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the newspaper is right there I think

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it's a channel 12 is right down the

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street I mean they can jammer guys walk

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there exactly yeah that's awesome

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so the Congress has always had an

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extensive lineup of speakers who present

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lectures and participate in panel

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discussions there seems to be even more

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participants this year than usual and

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you've also introduced lunchtime

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workshops this year

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how how are those gonna work so yeah the

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lunchtime workshops essentially Karen

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went to a conference for event

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organizing but also you know looking at

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what the other conferences are offering

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and what people like trying to figure

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out how to offer more for people to do

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and to participate in and so one thing

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that a lot of people are doing are they

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lunchtime workshops so essentially it's

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it there is a cost associated to it but

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it's a limited seating so it's a more

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intimate experience with you know

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whoever it's hosting it and and you get

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a you get lunch so lunch is brought to

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you so you can have your lunch while

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you're doing whatever you're doing for

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this workshop and most of the workshops

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are related to kind of experience all

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type of things so we have a lot of in

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fact what half of if not more than half

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of the workshop organizers are people

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who are you know they do meditation or

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hypnosis or something like that

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so for instance carolyn quarry kathleen

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Marden and Rebecca Wright hardcastle are

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going to be doing that sort of thing

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are they sort of kind of meditations or

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that sort of thing that people can go

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through and and of course a lot of

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people are interested in that so you

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know you can hear about them talk about

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it when they do their lecture and then

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you can participate in it in the lunch

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workshops and then we also have Travis

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Walton he wasn't sure you know when he'd

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be able to talk he's actually I think

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that we can also doing another

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conference a big horror conference so

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but he was able to do a workshop so that

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would be a lot of fun people love

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talking and you can have more of a

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one-on-one and there's people have an

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endless amount of questions for Travis

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so David Hatcher Childress and then

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Dolan also of course there are two

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popular speakers who people love to get

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more time went to ask questions and

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they're both and a wealth of knowledge

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so those have been very popular too so

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yeah so those who wanna you know stay in

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for lunch at one point they can do that

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and hear a lecture sounds like a really

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cool addition because not only is it

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adding another option for people but

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it's still remaining true to that thing

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that's you know becoming sort of unique

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to the Congress now and that is you

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don't really miss anything right you're

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never laughing thing and we don't see

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that you know Illustrated just over just

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ridiculous amounts at things like alien

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con where you've got right so many

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things going on at the same time and you

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have to look at the schedule and pick

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and choose and you know you're gonna

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miss out on something you want to see

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but you can only see on one thing and

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this is additional experience that you

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can you can have at the event and you

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don't have to miss anything and that's

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extremely important to us of course it

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was important to the Browns who own the

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conference before we took it over and it

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was something that they really wanted us

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to continue but it's something that you

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know we felt was important to because

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we're about research you know an

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information and at those other

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conferences we speak at alien council I

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can use and I can

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you know use them as an example because

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we love them I love them I love

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participating in a alien come but with

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that model you know there's a lot of

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people who will stand in line for a long

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time we've seen this at the different

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events they're waiting in line they get

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it up there after an hour or so and you

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can hear them all boo once the doors are

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closed because there's not enough room

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so now you've just missed you can't get

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into the one you want you might not be

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able to get into this speaker and then

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you've got to go look around and be like

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whoa hey who else am I gonna listen to

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this all a Hondros guy whoever he is is

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talking about some I guess I'll go in

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here but you know so and plus that all

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100 I might have some good stuff to say

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even though you don't know anything

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about him so what's great about not

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Congress what's great about the Congress

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is that they you know not only get to

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see the person they want to see but

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they'll also you know get to see some of

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these people they may not have heard of

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many of whom they'll probably you know

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as we know every year one of these are a

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few of these people who are not known

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are breakout stars at the Congress and

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everybody's talking about am oh my gosh

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did you see that lecture they were

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amazing I didn't even know who they were

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and so that's really exciting because

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then those people become you know start

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doing the lecture circuit and their

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information gets out and it's it's a

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good way to keep everything fresh all

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this new research rolling out there so I

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always love that about the Congress I

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really did and back to your point about

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alien Cohn I mean yeah I know I miss so

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much just because of what my schedule is

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like there but even like like with your

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buddies there you know there's so many

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of our friends there yeah I think I've

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only been able to make it to one of your

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talks there because right you have

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conflicting things and it just it

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doesn't work there's too much going on

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at the same time that you were in also

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yeah that's right

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well let's get it into the focal point

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of the Congress and that is the speaker

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lineup so would you kind of walk us

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through a brief preview of some of the

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highlight the highlights attendees have

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to look forward to you this year in

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terms of presentations okay I guess

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there's a few tracks

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one of the big ones of course and we'll

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get to the biggest first I guess would

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be two of the real hot topics and then

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that's George Knapp and Jeremy Korbel of

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course they're doing every every

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freaking event out there but ours is

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pretty much the last and the great thing

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is that we've always had a great

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relationship with them yeah and they

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understand that we're about research so

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they both have been making sure that

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they're preparing some new late-breaking

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stuff and new information that'll make

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news that people haven't heard about

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before so that's really exciting George

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Knapp it's gonna be talking about a tip

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and he's gonna be bringing some

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information he says it's new to that of

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course he's the guy who's been breaking

446
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the most news more than to the stars

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themselves I think George Knapp has been

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breaking the the biggest news related to

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all of this and then George or Jeremy

450
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has been part of that with his films

451
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just getting bigger and bigger and

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bigger and bigger but Jeremy's going to

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be sharing new films that nobody's ever

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seen before may never see again a couple

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bob lazar shorts his big films of course

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skinwalker

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those aren't shorts you will now

458
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exclusive bob lazar eight short shorts

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and he really is in short he's doing a

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George Knapp tells all on the skinwalker

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short documentary and then his talk is

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gonna include some late-breaking stuff

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about area 51 in this whole storm area

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51 so that'll be really important and I

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think the media here is gonna be really

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interested in that so they're gonna be

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the big guys and then uh what this is

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really fun we've been able of course

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I've had Brian bender on the show he

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works from Politico that the defense

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base editor he's a local here great guy

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and we've been hanging out with him

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quite a bit and we were able to talk him

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into coming by the weirdo UFO conference

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to sit in a panel with George and I and

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and I'm excited about this because he

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hasn't met George and yeah they haven't

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really talked so I know they're gonna

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hit it off because they're both you know

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major journalists in the mainstream who

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just having conversations with each

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on a regular basis they're very you know

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similar in thought as most journalists

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are you know when you're putting

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together your stories they understand

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what's credible and not and what you

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know is is important so it's gonna be a

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lot of fun

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and it's kind of funny too because

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there's this conspiracy theory out there

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that essentially and I am so flattered

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to be included among these other people

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I don't think I deserve to be included

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in this group but they they mostly

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include George Brian bender

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Leslie Kane and I as like being somehow

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in cahoots with to the Stars and for

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that we're just you know writing good

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stuff about them and you know like I

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just said George and Bryan haven't met

501
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George of course his main priority is

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his network and him being a good

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journalist same with Bryan Bryan could

504
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care less about the UFO community or to

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the stars he's writing new stories so

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it'll be fun to kind of show people that

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know were all very very different people

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and were not motivated by to the stars

509
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were voted by what they're doing and the

510
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news surrounding it but you know for

511
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reporting stuff that to the stars didn't

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Louella Sandow is telling the truth well

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then it's not our fault that's positive

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news there yeah the truth you know

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that's the way it is live with it so and

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that's what we all want you know yeah

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truth yeah so I kind of spend a lot of

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time on them but we're gonna have TV

519
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show stars we'll have David Hatcher

520
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Childress of course from ancient aliens

521
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but our good buddy Chuck Zukowski has

522
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his own TV show right so he'll be there

523
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he's got alien highway and then we've

524
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got a Kevin day who was in unidentified

525
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and of course one of the witnesses to

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the whole nimitz event so that'll be fun

527
00:21:52,930 --> 00:21:50,900
I'm Mark Dantonio has always done a lot

528
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of shows he's gonna be sharing something

529
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he's never shared in a public lecture

530
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before which is some personal

531
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experiences yes and when it comes to

532
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:01,280
personal races we've got Calvin Parker

533
00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:06,890
who is at Pascagoula you know Paul Hynek

534
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:09,230
whose personal experiences at a TV show

535
00:22:14,670 --> 00:22:11,690
so you guys know him I think had beers

536
00:22:16,649 --> 00:22:14,680
with him but he will be talking about

537
00:22:19,489 --> 00:22:16,659
what it was really like

538
00:22:22,619 --> 00:22:19,499
growing up in the Hynek household and

539
00:22:25,049 --> 00:22:22,629
also you know some information about

540
00:22:27,529 --> 00:22:25,059
consulting with Project Blue Book and

541
00:22:31,169 --> 00:22:27,539
what that's like

542
00:22:34,499 --> 00:22:31,179
so Terry Lovelace who's a witness

543
00:22:36,719 --> 00:22:34,509
himself we've got a lot of we've got a

544
00:22:38,700 --> 00:22:36,729
lot more women and I think that we found

545
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:38,710
this interesting before is there's a lot

546
00:22:42,149 --> 00:22:40,690
more women who are they're more

547
00:22:43,950 --> 00:22:42,159
interested in kind of the alien

548
00:22:46,169 --> 00:22:43,960
connection and communication type of

549
00:22:49,259 --> 00:22:46,179
stuff so we have a lot of that with

550
00:22:51,299 --> 00:22:49,269
Carolyn Cory will be speaking about that

551
00:22:54,239 --> 00:22:51,309
sort of thing Lisa teni and Debbie

552
00:22:55,349 --> 00:22:54,249
Jordan Coble are people who talk about

553
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:55,359
that sort of thing

554
00:23:03,359 --> 00:22:58,210
Debbie Jordan Coble was actually the

555
00:23:07,019 --> 00:23:03,369
subject that's who Bob Hopkins wrote

556
00:23:09,479 --> 00:23:07,029
about when he for intruders the book and

557
00:23:12,570 --> 00:23:09,489
the movie and so she'll be there sharing

558
00:23:21,749 --> 00:23:12,580
her story that inspired why can i

559
00:23:24,239 --> 00:23:21,759
remember his first name yeah so bud good

560
00:23:26,609 --> 00:23:24,249
old bud so yeah he had written a lot

561
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:26,619
about her and let's see who else we got

562
00:23:31,739 --> 00:23:28,570
we got James Fox everybody's been dying

563
00:23:33,029 --> 00:23:31,749
about the last three years James has

564
00:23:35,759 --> 00:23:33,039
been talking about this great

565
00:23:37,349 --> 00:23:35,769
documentary he's working on well what's

566
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:37,359
the deal dude you know whence it's

567
00:23:42,029 --> 00:23:38,559
coming out is what everybody's been

568
00:23:43,739 --> 00:23:42,039
asking fortunately I've been helping

569
00:23:46,169 --> 00:23:43,749
them a little bit behind the scenes and

570
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:46,179
so I know they've been working on stuff

571
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:49,210
and I know that it's extremely exciting

572
00:23:55,469 --> 00:23:53,039
stuff so so first time to wait exactly

573
00:23:57,149 --> 00:23:55,479
for the first time and you guys are

574
00:23:58,440 --> 00:23:57,159
probably if you follow you know things

575
00:24:00,119 --> 00:23:58,450
closely you can kind of get some

576
00:24:02,460 --> 00:24:00,129
Inklings and Lee Spiegel has been

577
00:24:04,919 --> 00:24:02,470
talking about it a bit because he's been

578
00:24:06,389 --> 00:24:04,929
helping with the project so James is

579
00:24:08,279 --> 00:24:06,399
finally going to be showing some behind

580
00:24:12,779 --> 00:24:08,289
the scenes and some information about

581
00:24:15,060 --> 00:24:12,789
this much anticipated film he will be

582
00:24:16,979 --> 00:24:15,070
coming out with so that's extremely

583
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:16,989
exciting he's great

584
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:19,690
we've got the Dolan so Richard Dolan and

585
00:24:26,539 --> 00:24:22,330
Tracy Garbett are married and they got

586
00:24:28,769 --> 00:24:26,549
engaged at the UFO Congress in 2017 and

587
00:24:30,530 --> 00:24:28,779
now a couple years later they're going

588
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:30,540
to both be speaking at the car

589
00:24:34,550 --> 00:24:33,210
Prince Richard Dolan and this is really

590
00:24:36,380 --> 00:24:34,560
cool he always comes up with something

591
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:36,390
original for the Congress this one's

592
00:24:41,390 --> 00:24:38,970
gonna be about metamaterials and the

593
00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:41,400
secret science of UFOs which is exciting

594
00:24:46,330 --> 00:24:43,800
because of course to the Stars says

595
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:46,340
they're working on analyzing some

596
00:24:51,740 --> 00:24:49,470
mysterious materials and then Tracy I

597
00:24:54,050 --> 00:24:51,750
don't know if many know this she's a

598
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:54,060
remote viewing expert so she'll be

599
00:24:58,750 --> 00:24:55,710
talking about that she's a remote

600
00:25:01,640 --> 00:24:58,760
viewing expert and an experiencer so

601
00:25:03,550 --> 00:25:01,650
she'll be talking about those things so

602
00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:03,560
that's exciting and then Michael masters

603
00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:08,370
he's a PhD in biological anthropology

604
00:25:13,700 --> 00:25:10,500
he's actually a professor and an author

605
00:25:17,630 --> 00:25:13,710
on those topics as well have you guys

606
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,640
talked to him I have not I know well I

607
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:20,400
know Ryan Sprague has yeah because a lot

608
00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:21,810
of people have been interviewing him and

609
00:25:27,980 --> 00:25:24,590
his thing is that you know he feels

610
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:27,990
there's evidence that aliens could be

611
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:30,690
humans from the future right and I think

612
00:25:36,350 --> 00:25:33,210
that that's a great topic because that

613
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:36,360
is really it's something probably in

614
00:25:40,010 --> 00:25:38,010
this field we should talk about more

615
00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:40,020
because it's just as strong a

616
00:25:44,810 --> 00:25:42,600
possibility I think as you know aliens

617
00:25:47,270 --> 00:25:44,820
coming from elsewhere in fact when you

618
00:25:50,210 --> 00:25:47,280
talk about the science of traveling vast

619
00:25:54,290 --> 00:25:50,220
distances it's very similar to the

620
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:54,300
science of time travel even the the you

621
00:26:00,350 --> 00:25:57,770
know energy you need and so forth so

622
00:26:02,810 --> 00:26:00,360
it's possible it's entirely possible

623
00:26:05,210 --> 00:26:02,820
that that's happening so that's gonna be

624
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:05,220
a really interesting talk yeah let's see

625
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:07,890
who did I forget Oh chase klutz key

626
00:26:13,790 --> 00:26:11,370
she's the number one on top here she is

627
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:13,800
of course she's doing some cool things

628
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:15,510
she's left MUFON she used to be their

629
00:26:20,510 --> 00:26:19,110
their chief investigator and now she's

630
00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:20,520
doing her own independent investigation

631
00:26:26,750 --> 00:26:23,820
and she's moved to Washington DC where

632
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:26,760
she is a registered lobbyist and she has

633
00:26:33,740 --> 00:26:30,450
been successful at you know briefing

634
00:26:36,140 --> 00:26:33,750
some some people on lawmakers on the UFO

635
00:26:38,030 --> 00:26:36,150
topic and she's been doing her own

636
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:38,040
investigation so she's gonna be talking

637
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:40,320
about that and kind of the future as she

638
00:26:44,360 --> 00:26:43,110
sees it of this field which i think is

639
00:26:46,220 --> 00:26:44,370
really important

640
00:26:48,140 --> 00:26:46,230
so Brian talking about the future of the

641
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:48,150
field there's a lot of people and you've

642
00:26:52,850 --> 00:26:50,970
probably interviewed or all of them who

643
00:26:56,299 --> 00:26:52,860
have been talking about creating an

644
00:26:58,100 --> 00:26:56,309
all-in-one system to monitor UFOs and

645
00:27:00,680 --> 00:26:58,110
where you can kind of deploy these

646
00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:00,690
systems and and get some different

647
00:27:05,030 --> 00:27:02,700
telemetry and information when there's a

648
00:27:07,670 --> 00:27:05,040
UFO sighting well the first person to

649
00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:07,680
actually get to the finish line was the

650
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:10,140
last to even start this whole thing or

651
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:11,610
at least that we are aware of

652
00:27:15,530 --> 00:27:14,100
we're said Oh Brian and he's already out

653
00:27:18,230 --> 00:27:15,540
of the gate he's the first out of the

654
00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:18,240
gate and that's so awesome so he's got

655
00:27:22,970 --> 00:27:20,520
gonna have a sample of his system that

656
00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:22,980
he'll be showing at a table a vendor

657
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:24,510
table and then he's gonna be talking

658
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:28,170
about his UFO Dapp system that does all

659
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:30,690
of this so you know our good buddy Mark

660
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:32,970
Dantonio and Doug Trumbull and our other

661
00:27:38,299 --> 00:27:35,760
friends at UFO data they they just

662
00:27:40,610 --> 00:27:38,309
haven't been able to to wrap it up and

663
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:40,620
and Chris O'Brien has so I'm extremely

664
00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:42,120
excited for him and it looks like a

665
00:27:47,120 --> 00:27:44,130
super cool system you should project so

666
00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:47,130
Brian's table next to Mark's table yeah

667
00:27:52,820 --> 00:27:49,830
that would be hilarious yeah that would

668
00:27:54,620 --> 00:27:52,830
be funny he can be in every time he

669
00:28:02,600 --> 00:27:54,630
looks over mark looks at his table he

670
00:28:04,820 --> 00:28:02,610
continued that's right but yeah O'Brien

671
00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:04,830
had all this stuff out at MUFON and it

672
00:28:09,530 --> 00:28:07,440
was really cool so I'm excited for for

673
00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:09,540
that and then Charlotte man so those of

674
00:28:13,820 --> 00:28:11,880
you who are into UFO crashes one of the

675
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:13,830
most popular ones is to Cape Girardeau

676
00:28:21,140 --> 00:28:18,240
cattle crash alleged crash from 1941 and

677
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:21,150
Charlotte man is a granddaughter of the

678
00:28:26,690 --> 00:28:24,090
most famous witness of that case who was

679
00:28:30,260 --> 00:28:26,700
a reverend who said he was asked to give

680
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:30,270
last rites to aliens when I crashed here

681
00:28:37,370 --> 00:28:34,410
so she's gonna share that story and more

682
00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:37,380
and I have either of you met her she

683
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:39,600
comes to the Congress every year I don't

684
00:28:44,660 --> 00:28:41,550
think I've met her no I don't think I

685
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:44,670
have she's one of these you know fired

686
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:49,050
up ladies who is a lot of fun and I mean

687
00:28:53,270 --> 00:28:51,330
she she came to me and she's like a

688
00:28:55,070 --> 00:28:53,280
hundred everybody's talking about my

689
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:55,080
case and talking about what I say and I

690
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:56,730
need to be able to tell people from my

691
00:28:59,100 --> 00:28:57,370
very

692
00:29:00,930 --> 00:28:59,110
own mouth well you know what's happened

693
00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:00,940
and what I what my grandfather did it

694
00:29:05,670 --> 00:29:03,280
brother and it was funny and she was

695
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:05,680
great obviously she was articulate and

696
00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:09,130
not afraid to speak in front of people

697
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:11,920
so it I was like hey you've got me she

698
00:29:16,830 --> 00:29:15,370
sold me so so I've been pushing for that

699
00:29:18,210 --> 00:29:16,840
and I'm really excited that we've got

700
00:29:20,670 --> 00:29:18,220
her on there because I think she's gonna

701
00:29:23,130 --> 00:29:20,680
be a lot of fun she's just gonna go up

702
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:23,140
there and tell people this is how it is

703
00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:25,809
and that's gonna be a lot of fun and

704
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:27,400
then we have sonja barrett who is

705
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:29,410
another kind of experiencer talking

706
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:32,890
about consciousness with UFOs and you

707
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:36,450
know that's always a popular topic and

708
00:29:41,310 --> 00:29:38,650
this is what i'm really excited about

709
00:29:42,990 --> 00:29:41,320
this is one i keep pushing and talking

710
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:43,000
about which is chewy schneider she's an

711
00:29:48,450 --> 00:29:46,450
author speaker and photographer so she

712
00:29:50,610 --> 00:29:48,460
talks and writes books on various topics

713
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:50,620
but one of the things she decided to

714
00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:55,090
research is the great Texas airship

715
00:30:00,360 --> 00:29:58,150
mystery of 1897 which is a really

716
00:30:03,510 --> 00:30:00,370
interesting one I and I'm not so read up

717
00:30:05,580 --> 00:30:03,520
on that whole thing and she is and she's

718
00:30:07,020 --> 00:30:05,590
got a bunch of news clippings it sounds

719
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:07,030
like her talk is gonna be similar to

720
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:09,490
what noe Torres does and he's actually

721
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:12,970
the one who told us about her and I love

722
00:30:18,690 --> 00:30:15,190
Noah Turia's his stuff so I'm really

723
00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:18,700
excited for her talk nice cool she seems

724
00:30:24,390 --> 00:30:20,230
really cool and I think I've got

725
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:24,400
everybody oh yeah Ben is lecturing

726
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:26,650
that's right yeah so he's doing the sky

727
00:30:30,750 --> 00:30:29,290
watch and we're gonna actually bust

728
00:30:33,180 --> 00:30:30,760
people because there's no you know in

729
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,190
the middle of downtown you can go yes

730
00:30:37,950 --> 00:30:35,200
and be in the dark so we're busing

731
00:30:40,230 --> 00:30:37,960
people to South Mountain and we've

732
00:30:42,510 --> 00:30:40,240
worked with the park and the park it's

733
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:42,520
gonna let us in after the gates are

734
00:30:47,940 --> 00:30:45,850
officially closed the bus will go to a

735
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:47,950
lookout because of course the views of

736
00:30:51,299 --> 00:30:50,170
the city are remarkable from up there

737
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:51,309
mm-hmm

738
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:54,010
hopefully Ben well also I'm gonna try to

739
00:30:57,390 --> 00:30:55,570
tell me maybe tell people a little bit

740
00:31:00,450 --> 00:30:57,400
about the Phoenix lights because that's

741
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:00,460
where a lot of people saw them and then

742
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:02,770
they're gonna go to a place that they've

743
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:04,630
got set out for us behind the Visitor

744
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:07,570
Center that's really dark and I've been

745
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:09,010
we'll be doing that the whole thing he

746
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:10,710
does with the Night Watch and then I

747
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:13,559
optics that events actually even already

748
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:17,630
sold out I'll have a waitlist yeah yeah

749
00:31:22,909 --> 00:31:20,399
and here's another cool thing for people

750
00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,919
who have done the sky watch with Ben

751
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:24,559
before at the Congress

752
00:31:29,899 --> 00:31:27,450
remember that pretty much every year

753
00:31:32,510 --> 00:31:29,909
he's done it it's like cloudy or it's

754
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:32,520
raining or something ends it but because

755
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:34,440
it's not in February anymore as

756
00:31:38,659 --> 00:31:36,720
September and it's gonna be at South

757
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:38,669
Mountain this could be like the best

758
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:41,370
year for the sky watch yeah yeah I

759
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:44,250
thought of that same thing no rain yeah

760
00:31:48,950 --> 00:31:46,409
and it's even usually the events really

761
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:48,960
packed even if they if the weather isn't

762
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:50,730
great because it's so fun just to play

763
00:31:56,750 --> 00:31:52,799
with the night vision and look at it and

764
00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:56,760
hear been talking about it so this is

765
00:32:01,700 --> 00:31:58,320
gonna be great yeah cuz of the the

766
00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,710
location is so awesome just being there

767
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:03,659
is so fun cuz you're in this giant

768
00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:06,960
Canyon right over you know with the

769
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:09,510
Phoenix just right there it doesn't it's

770
00:32:14,450 --> 00:32:12,210
a South Mountain is a really cool Park I

771
00:32:15,769 --> 00:32:14,460
love South Mountain it's amazing it you

772
00:32:18,620 --> 00:32:15,779
I mean right in the middle of the city

773
00:32:20,389 --> 00:32:18,630
you can have these desert mountainous

774
00:32:23,779 --> 00:32:20,399
kind of landscapes that feel like

775
00:32:25,340 --> 00:32:23,789
there's no one around but Ben is also

776
00:32:27,110 --> 00:32:25,350
his talks gonna be a lot of fun if you

777
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:27,120
guys haven't seen it and I don't know

778
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:28,529
how much you guys have seen but he's got

779
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:31,049
this new TV show ghosts of Morgan City

780
00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:34,559
and so he's gonna be talkin it's ghost

781
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:35,880
hunting but he's going to be talking

782
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:37,529
about the similarities between you know

783
00:32:41,510 --> 00:32:38,730
the different type of paranormal

784
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:41,520
research love that but I don't know if

785
00:32:44,750 --> 00:32:43,289
you've seen him you know he did this

786
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:44,760
thing on one of these videos they've

787
00:32:49,909 --> 00:32:47,970
captured which I don't think you know I

788
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:49,919
trust Ben he's a good buddy to to I

789
00:32:54,380 --> 00:32:52,110
don't know him to be a fake or a liar so

790
00:32:56,740 --> 00:32:54,390
if this video they captured is real have

791
00:33:00,500 --> 00:32:56,750
you guys seen it the lady was yeah

792
00:33:02,779 --> 00:33:00,510
ordinary it is it's just like the movies

793
00:33:05,269 --> 00:33:02,789
yeah it is it's the best ghost footage

794
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:05,279
I've ever seen yeah yeah that's amazing

795
00:33:11,659 --> 00:33:08,220
and he tells the story about he's got

796
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:11,669
that Facebook video and his analysis

797
00:33:14,180 --> 00:33:13,529
seems right on that this thing is weird

798
00:33:18,289 --> 00:33:14,190
man

799
00:33:20,269 --> 00:33:18,299
that's awesome super exciting and yeah I

800
00:33:21,860 --> 00:33:20,279
would love to see that presentation so

801
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:21,870
what do you guys think it a ghost video

802
00:33:26,390 --> 00:33:24,240
I mean like you said I

803
00:33:29,540 --> 00:33:26,400
I am on the same page as you you know

804
00:33:31,790 --> 00:33:29,550
we've known Ben for a long time now I've

805
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:31,800
never known him to not be anything but

806
00:33:37,220 --> 00:33:33,570
you know completely trustworthy a

807
00:33:39,470 --> 00:33:37,230
straight stand-up guy and you know I've

808
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:39,480
even gone ghost hunting with Ben and you

809
00:33:44,419 --> 00:33:42,570
know he's experienced things too and

810
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,429
it's it's always interesting knowing

811
00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:46,559
been knowing his personality and when

812
00:33:52,340 --> 00:33:49,740
something surprises him it kind of

813
00:33:54,140 --> 00:33:52,350
catches you off-guard because yeah he

814
00:33:58,370 --> 00:33:54,150
doesn't really get animated you know

815
00:34:00,049 --> 00:33:58,380
he's kind of very very not stoic but you

816
00:34:01,730 --> 00:34:00,059
know he's kind of slow in his movements

817
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:01,740
in his speech he's very focused in what

818
00:34:05,570 --> 00:34:03,870
he's saying and then when he gets

819
00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:05,580
excited you're all something must be

820
00:34:11,510 --> 00:34:09,389
going on yeah I don't question question

821
00:34:14,330 --> 00:34:11,520
him for a second when he says that he

822
00:34:14,810 --> 00:34:14,340
saw something yeah hey well Roswell

823
00:34:17,330 --> 00:34:14,820
right

824
00:34:19,940 --> 00:34:17,340
yes Roswell so that was a lot of fun

825
00:34:21,950 --> 00:34:19,950
where we did that their museum we had a

826
00:34:24,109 --> 00:34:21,960
ghost hunt with Ben and he saw something

827
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:24,119
so I know what you mean because his

828
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:25,770
demeanor changes you know he's usually

829
00:34:32,270 --> 00:34:30,510
very sober you know talks he has a pace

830
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:32,280
to his talk because he's explaining

831
00:34:39,740 --> 00:34:36,090
things but yeah when something happens

832
00:34:42,260 --> 00:34:39,750
and the energy changes yeah so when he

833
00:34:43,070 --> 00:34:42,270
posted that yeah I definitely took note

834
00:34:45,409 --> 00:34:43,080
of it for sure

835
00:34:47,419 --> 00:34:45,419
yeah I don't doubt it's it's legit

836
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:47,429
everything knowing everything about Ben

837
00:34:55,730 --> 00:34:51,210
definitely yeah well yeah you mentioned

838
00:34:58,250 --> 00:34:55,740
that you know about about rich and Tracy

839
00:35:01,280 --> 00:34:58,260
and love seems to be in the air at the I

840
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:01,290
um multiple people have formed

841
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,330
relationships at the event gotten

842
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:05,520
engaged and even married during the

843
00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:08,850
Congress we talk about this a lot an

844
00:35:13,130 --> 00:35:11,040
important element of the Congress has

845
00:35:15,650 --> 00:35:13,140
always been the social aspect the

846
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:15,660
opportunity for like-minded people to

847
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:18,330
meet up engage in conversation and

848
00:35:23,870 --> 00:35:20,850
friendly debate and just to hang out and

849
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:23,880
the Congress always has it's Wednesday

850
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:25,050
and Saturday banquets

851
00:35:29,210 --> 00:35:27,930
but you guys have also added additional

852
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:29,220
entertainment and socializing

853
00:35:35,450 --> 00:35:31,140
opportunities this year right even live

854
00:35:37,770 --> 00:35:35,460
music yes because this location is

855
00:35:40,110 --> 00:35:37,780
really cool I mean it there

856
00:35:42,930 --> 00:35:40,120
it's a very cool location the hotel's

857
00:35:44,430 --> 00:35:42,940
super nice I think people are really

858
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:44,440
gonna like it of course it doesn't have

859
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:47,290
that desert atmosphere but it has that

860
00:35:53,750 --> 00:35:49,510
kind of urban atmosphere with an a ton

861
00:35:56,850 --> 00:35:53,760
of space inside the hotel so there's a

862
00:35:58,770 --> 00:35:56,860
lot of space to hang out the forest

863
00:36:00,630 --> 00:35:58,780
floors were the pool and the jacuzzi is

864
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:00,640
and there's a bar there and a bunch of

865
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:03,280
seating to hang out there so there's a

866
00:36:07,710 --> 00:36:05,770
lot of hangout space all around for

867
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:07,720
people to hang out and one of these

868
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:10,090
spaces that they have that they said we

869
00:36:14,670 --> 00:36:12,490
could use is called this Valley overlook

870
00:36:17,070 --> 00:36:14,680
and it's on the fourth floor same floor

871
00:36:19,550 --> 00:36:17,080
as a pool in a different area and right

872
00:36:22,410 --> 00:36:19,560
out right inside the doors is a bar area

873
00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:22,420
so it's a hangout area there but then

874
00:36:26,910 --> 00:36:25,030
you go out to this awesome patio where

875
00:36:29,820 --> 00:36:26,920
they have these cool upscale kind of

876
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:29,830
events and they said we could use it so

877
00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,370
we decided to you know ask her we've got

878
00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:35,920
good friends who helped us out with the

879
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:37,780
Congress you know but that are part of

880
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:39,850
the music scene you're part of the music

881
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:41,260
scene you're the one who connected us

882
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:45,130
with most these people so heidi GAD

883
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:47,410
who's a volunteer in particular kind of

884
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:49,150
took on and we also had some other

885
00:36:53,970 --> 00:36:51,370
people contact us but she helped us

886
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:53,980
contact some musicians because we

887
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:55,690
figured you know it'd be fun to have

888
00:36:59,280 --> 00:36:57,370
some music and she was like hey you know

889
00:37:01,590 --> 00:36:59,290
I know lots of musicians who would love

890
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,600
to if you just let them come to the

891
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:03,040
conference for free they'd love to play

892
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:05,920
some music for a while so yeah so we've

893
00:37:09,750 --> 00:37:08,020
coordinated some live music on Thursday

894
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:09,760
and Friday nights that people will be

895
00:37:16,530 --> 00:37:13,290
able to enjoy no doubt at some point

896
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:16,540
probably most nights Travis Walton will

897
00:37:20,070 --> 00:37:18,310
be out there too playing his guitar he

898
00:37:22,830 --> 00:37:20,080
always loves to play his guitar in the

899
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:22,840
evenings so yes so we'll have some live

900
00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:24,490
music that'll be a lot of fun that's

901
00:37:29,580 --> 00:37:26,860
based off Sara's super cool I've been to

902
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:29,590
a few functions have you for and it is

903
00:37:33,420 --> 00:37:31,570
awesome when you've got the people out

904
00:37:35,660 --> 00:37:33,430
there you've got the you know bars going

905
00:37:38,070 --> 00:37:35,670
and it's just it's such a cool space

906
00:37:40,110 --> 00:37:38,080
it's beautiful it's one of the most

907
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:40,120
gorgeous hotels that I've ever seen it's

908
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:42,880
very modern and just guys it's awesome

909
00:37:49,650 --> 00:37:46,870
and the energy was amazing yeah and you

910
00:37:51,069 --> 00:37:49,660
know the other thing people have said is

911
00:37:55,690 --> 00:37:51,079
asking about food what would

912
00:37:58,299 --> 00:37:55,700
you know we were at a place with a you

913
00:38:00,430 --> 00:37:58,309
know a whole casino with with various

914
00:38:03,009 --> 00:38:00,440
restaurants and stuff but right across

915
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:03,019
the street from the hotel is essentially

916
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:04,849
kind of the premier downtown shopping

917
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:07,729
area that they've been developing in

918
00:38:12,339 --> 00:38:10,130
Phoenix and and so you have tons of

919
00:38:14,859 --> 00:38:12,349
restaurants yes they're just across the

920
00:38:16,660 --> 00:38:14,869
street so there will be a lot there for

921
00:38:20,109 --> 00:38:16,670
people and it's beautiful downtown area

922
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:20,119
yeah yeah it's a great place to be so it

923
00:38:23,529 --> 00:38:21,650
takes an incredible amount of work to

924
00:38:26,709 --> 00:38:23,539
put together the Congress every year and

925
00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:26,719
you and Karen do a tremendous job and

926
00:38:33,489 --> 00:38:29,529
the event always succeeds because of

927
00:38:35,170 --> 00:38:33,499
well many reasons but including the many

928
00:38:36,699 --> 00:38:35,180
awesome volunteers who donate their time

929
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:36,709
to make this thing happen

930
00:38:41,229 --> 00:38:38,930
so my question is are there still

931
00:38:44,349 --> 00:38:41,239
opportunities for people to volunteer to

932
00:38:48,069 --> 00:38:44,359
help out this year there might be like

933
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:48,079
if the at this point I don't know that

934
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:49,910
we have we know we wouldn't be able to

935
00:38:54,309 --> 00:38:51,650
provide hotel room but we could

936
00:38:57,549 --> 00:38:54,319
definitely provide tickets okay

937
00:39:00,029 --> 00:38:57,559
so I would say we're not completely

938
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:00,039
settled in that way so there are

939
00:39:05,559 --> 00:39:02,930
opportunities so you can email contact

940
00:39:08,109 --> 00:39:05,569
at UFO congress.com if you are

941
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:08,119
interested so just contact at UFO

942
00:39:13,029 --> 00:39:10,609
congress comm or go to UFO congress comm

943
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:13,039
and contact us through the contact form

944
00:39:17,439 --> 00:39:15,170
and let us know and there may be

945
00:39:19,299 --> 00:39:17,449
opportunities in fact there could be a

946
00:39:21,430 --> 00:39:19,309
couple people hearing this error saying

947
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:21,440
dad even gotten back to me I was I asked

948
00:39:24,849 --> 00:39:24,079
to be a volunteer don't worry if that's

949
00:39:27,249 --> 00:39:24,859
true

950
00:39:30,069 --> 00:39:27,259
email us again and remind us if you want

951
00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:30,079
but we most likely have you on our list

952
00:39:34,089 --> 00:39:31,400
and we will be getting back with you

953
00:39:37,150 --> 00:39:34,099
soon we're just kind of finalizing the

954
00:39:38,799 --> 00:39:37,160
volunteers but you know when you talk

955
00:39:41,589 --> 00:39:38,809
about volunteers you're right we have

956
00:39:44,049 --> 00:39:41,599
amazing volunteers you know there's

957
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:44,059
Jordan peas and and Carlo Petrik who

958
00:39:48,759 --> 00:39:46,670
helped us every year we've had crazy

959
00:39:50,709 --> 00:39:48,769
Danny if people have been to the

960
00:39:53,859 --> 00:39:50,719
Congress they remembered Danny you can't

961
00:39:57,130 --> 00:39:53,869
miss him with his like silver pants and

962
00:40:00,759 --> 00:39:57,140
you know crazy fun antics he always

963
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:00,769
makes a conference so fun yeah but so

964
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:03,650
yeah those guys are our standards and in

965
00:40:07,290 --> 00:40:04,810
his some of his

966
00:40:10,110 --> 00:40:07,300
but he's like Tyler ACORN and and some

967
00:40:13,890 --> 00:40:10,120
of the others who come have been are

968
00:40:14,730 --> 00:40:13,900
awesome but Phoenix move funds also been

969
00:40:16,290 --> 00:40:14,740
a huge help

970
00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:16,300
because that first of all they're one of

971
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:19,540
the best chapters in the state and I've

972
00:40:24,030 --> 00:40:21,730
been to a lot of different MUFON

973
00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:24,040
chapters and they're absolutely

974
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:25,900
incredible they're amazing and they keep

975
00:40:30,450 --> 00:40:28,450
winning awards in fact and they should

976
00:40:33,390 --> 00:40:30,460
because they're one of the best states

977
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:33,400
and they get us a lot of help so Jim and

978
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:36,690
Stacey who run it helped out a lot and

979
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:39,130
some of the members helped out a lot Don

980
00:40:44,730 --> 00:40:41,850
and Mary Ann Rob are a tremendous help

981
00:40:47,310 --> 00:40:44,740
you know Karen race data is a friend of

982
00:40:49,350 --> 00:40:47,320
ours who's there signed you know sandy

983
00:40:51,510 --> 00:40:49,360
going out I could keep going on there's

984
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,520
just a ton of really great people who

985
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:53,440
helped us a lot and then JK Scott who

986
00:40:57,030 --> 00:40:55,230
helps with the film festival so

987
00:40:59,490 --> 00:40:57,040
unfortunately we haven't had Ryan

988
00:41:02,070 --> 00:40:59,500
Sprague in a while he can't do this year

989
00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:02,080
again he used to always help and what

990
00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:03,730
didn't in fact that's what he did for a

991
00:41:08,820 --> 00:41:07,300
long time Ryan thanks was okay it was

992
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:08,830
almost gonna be convenient because he

993
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:10,150
was on the west coast for a brief period

994
00:41:15,090 --> 00:41:12,970
yeah yeah used again so yeah that makes

995
00:41:17,550 --> 00:41:15,100
it a little difficult yeah it's a

996
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:17,560
difficult expensive and I totally get it

997
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:19,150
he's a busy guy he's doing lots of

998
00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:24,250
really cool stuff so so yeah you're the

999
00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:26,200
volunteers are absolutely incredible

1000
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:28,120
we've had so much incredible talent that

1001
00:41:31,830 --> 00:41:29,710
has been able to help us over the years

1002
00:41:35,580 --> 00:41:31,840
and and of course there's a lot of

1003
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:35,590
people who like Ryan or you or Michael

1004
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:40,210
Klein even you know in Maureen and and

1005
00:41:45,210 --> 00:41:43,210
Tom some of the people who used to work

1006
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:45,220
with us who don't anymore who are missed

1007
00:41:49,740 --> 00:41:47,590
every year because they did some

1008
00:41:52,830 --> 00:41:49,750
incredible stuff you know with the

1009
00:41:54,420 --> 00:41:52,840
conference as well and then this this

1010
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:54,430
year you know like last year we didn't

1011
00:41:58,730 --> 00:41:56,650
have Angela radio we didn't have John

1012
00:42:02,040 --> 00:41:58,740
Rae oh the owner of open minds either

1013
00:42:04,170 --> 00:42:02,050
not because he's you know snubbing us or

1014
00:42:06,990 --> 00:42:04,180
something because and I think this isn't

1015
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:07,000
an accident his wife conveniently

1016
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:10,210
schedules trips for them during our

1017
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:13,930
conference that's right and I think that

1018
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:16,210
at least Karen thinks that she's doing

1019
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:18,530
it out of kindness to us

1020
00:42:22,510 --> 00:42:20,720
cuz that she thinks it's gonna be too

1021
00:42:24,580 --> 00:42:22,520
much in the way but that's too I

1022
00:42:26,470 --> 00:42:24,590
actually you know it's fun to have John

1023
00:42:29,610 --> 00:42:26,480
he's passionate about all of this stuff

1024
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:29,620
he's the one who kept the Congress going

1025
00:42:36,490 --> 00:42:33,890
he of course you know employed all of us

1026
00:42:38,140 --> 00:42:36,500
for open minds he's awesome so we miss

1027
00:42:41,020 --> 00:42:38,150
him too it's too bad he can't make it

1028
00:42:44,110 --> 00:42:41,030
but yeah it could be enjoying some fun

1029
00:42:45,250 --> 00:42:44,120
trip somewhere that's right well you

1030
00:42:47,050 --> 00:42:45,260
already answered my last question

1031
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:47,060
Alejandro and that is where can people

1032
00:42:51,690 --> 00:42:49,430
go to see all of the important details

1033
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:51,700
about the event and to buy their tickets

1034
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:54,560
yes it is UFO congress.com

1035
00:43:01,660 --> 00:42:58,190
there is a discount code that I can give

1036
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:01,670
your listeners for $50 off multi-day

1037
00:43:04,930 --> 00:43:02,960
passes

1038
00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:04,940
let me look it up what we talk because I

1039
00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:07,220
want everybody know so I've got two

1040
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:10,630
coats one of them is for 10% off of

1041
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,370
anything but if you're gonna get a

1042
00:43:17,110 --> 00:43:15,200
multi-day pass like if you're gonna be

1043
00:43:18,490 --> 00:43:17,120
there all week or if you're gonna be

1044
00:43:20,410 --> 00:43:18,500
there just like Friday through Sunday

1045
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:20,420
and get the Friday through Sunday pass

1046
00:43:29,860 --> 00:43:25,250
you'll get $50 off using this code I am

1047
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:29,870
about to give you you can have to wait

1048
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:32,570
the tension in the air as people eagerly

1049
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:43,610
await the discount codes oh here we go

1050
00:43:52,330 --> 00:43:46,930
are you guys ready yes do it if the off

1051
00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:52,340
couldn't remember that all uppercase and

1052
00:43:56,140 --> 00:43:54,620
you'll get $50 off those multiple codes

1053
00:43:59,350 --> 00:43:56,150
it looks like people are already taking

1054
00:44:02,370 --> 00:43:59,360
advantage of it and if you use the code

1055
00:44:07,180 --> 00:44:02,380
[Music]

1056
00:44:10,180 --> 00:44:07,190
will give you pH X 10 Phoenix 10 so pH X

1057
00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:10,190
uppercase 10 you'll get 10% off of

1058
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:12,200
anything else so let's say you're only

1059
00:44:16,750 --> 00:44:14,270
coming a half-day or you're just gonna

1060
00:44:18,790 --> 00:44:16,760
be there for maybe you know a couple

1061
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:18,800
half days cuz a lot of locals do that or

1062
00:44:22,330 --> 00:44:20,090
like you know I can come Saturday

1063
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:22,340
evening and Sunday morning then they get

1064
00:44:26,350 --> 00:44:23,990
those tickets you could get 10% off of

1065
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:26,360
anything else so sweet yeah and another

1066
00:44:30,310 --> 00:44:28,910
fun thing we've done is VIP tickets you

1067
00:44:32,140 --> 00:44:30,320
know and and it's something people

1068
00:44:33,849 --> 00:44:32,150
really like right yeah

1069
00:44:35,620 --> 00:44:33,859
to have tickets where they they're kind

1070
00:44:38,799 --> 00:44:35,630
of special they get a special event a

1071
00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:38,809
t-shirt and they get saved seats in the

1072
00:44:43,539 --> 00:44:40,700
front and second you know for a couple

1073
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:43,549
rows that's use oh those will be going

1074
00:44:48,940 --> 00:44:45,650
one you can get 50 bucks off of those if

1075
00:44:51,490 --> 00:44:48,950
you like as well nice well alejandro

1076
00:44:53,019 --> 00:44:51,500
it's exciting knowing that it's congress

1077
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season congress is right around the

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corner so we are certainly wishing you

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both the best of luck this year and we

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are excited to see there yes always

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excited to see you guys and everyone

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else as well so thank you guys so much

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for having me on to talk about it yeah

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looking forward to it so much yes it's

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gonna be awesome it's gonna be tons of

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fun

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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well citizens as we wrap up this episode

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we invite you to come join us in the

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rogue planet Facebook group at

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facebook.com slash groups slash for a

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planet we'd really love to hear what UFO

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related events you enjoy or which

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upcoming events you're looking forward

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to you can find more episodes of unknown

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and if you haven't done it already

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it would be awesome if you could take a

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minute and rate and review unknown on

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00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:54,529
your favorite podcast platform you can

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00:45:57,460 --> 00:45:55,760
always find this show at rogue planet

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00:46:00,339 --> 00:45:57,470
evey because unknown is a rogue planet

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production ro Planet TV is your home for

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all the strange big thanks to our

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talented friend and fellow rogue planets

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here Caleb hanks for the show's intro

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and outro music check out all his work

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at buckler Chronicles calm thanks again

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for hanging out with us today I'm Jason

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McClellan and I'm Shane heard it was the

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favorite friends always treat the UFO

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subject with the cautious and

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responsible skepticism it deserves

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question everything have the courage to

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form your own opinions keep truth as the

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focus of your quest even if the truth

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conflicts with your opinions and oh of

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course stay strange

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